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Lecture et commentaire du S\u00e9minaire VI de Jacques Lacan\u00a0: Le d\u00e9sir et son interpr\u00e9tation\u00a0(1)<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

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L\u2019\u00eatre parlant est un d\u00e9sirant en tant que le d\u00e9sir est d\u00e9sir de l\u2019Autre. Sans rapport avec le besoin, d\u00e9sir de reconnaissance selon Hegel, d\u00e9sir de d\u00e9sir, le d\u00e9sir se manifeste dans la prise du sujet dans l\u2019articulation de la parole mais y circule m\u00e9tonymiquement en restant informul\u00e9, effet de la division du sujet et du manque de l\u2019Autre.<\/p>\n

\u00ab\u00a0Le d\u00e9sir est l\u2019essence m\u00eame de l\u2019homme\u00a0\u00bb (2)\u00a0\u00e9crivait Spinoza.\u00a0Le n\u00e9vros\u00e9 en fait sympt\u00f4me, qu\u2019il soit impossible ou insatisfait.<\/p>\n

\u00ab\u00a0Che vuoi\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb (que veux-tu\u00a0?) (3)\u00a0La question est pos\u00e9e \u00e0 l\u2019Autre, d\u00e8s la premi\u00e8re rencontre avec le d\u00e9sir. La construction du graphe du d\u00e9sir va le situer entre la demande pulsionnelle et le fantasme, entre $\u2662D et $\u2662a\u00a0; pulsion et fantasme entendus comme pris entre cha\u00eene signifiante et imaginaire.<\/p>\n

Jacques-Alain Miller, lors de la journ\u00e9e des Sections cliniques du 26 mai 2013, propose de tirer un fil dans ce s\u00e9minaire. \u00ab\u00a0Ce fil c\u2019est celui du fantasme.\u00a0\u00bb Il se d\u00e9veloppe dans le S\u00e9minaire VI une premi\u00e8re logique du fantasme et en particulier du fantasme fondamental\u00a0(4).<\/p>\n

Ce S\u00e9minaire de 1958-59 va \u00e9tablir le passage d\u2019une fonction imaginaire du fantasme \u00e0 la formulation du caract\u00e8re r\u00e9el de l\u2019objet.\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0The King is a thing… a thing of nothing. \u00bb\u00a0(5)\u00a0Les sept le\u00e7ons sur\u00a0Hamlet\u00a0sont le pivot du s\u00e9minaire.<\/p>\n

Hamlet\u00a0est la trag\u00e9die du d\u00e9sir \u2013 Hamlet ne sait pas s\u2019il veut ce qu\u2019il d\u00e9sire \u2013 et Lacan en passe par cette trag\u00e9die pour montrer que le d\u00e9sir n\u2019est pas seulement centr\u00e9 sur le manque de l\u2019Autre, mais qu\u2019il a un objet et qu\u2019au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019objet imaginaire, Oph\u00e9lie, au-del\u00e0 du double La\u00ebrte, au-del\u00e0 du phallus, cet objet est r\u00e9el.<\/p>\n

Hamlet\u00a0montre combien l\u2019\u0152dipe dit normatif n\u2019est pas sans apporter troubles et d\u00e9sordre. \u00ab\u00a0Le sympt\u00f4me d\u2019Hamlet, c\u2019est son P\u00e8re.\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0(6)\u00a0La trag\u00e9die bascule avec la play-sc\u00e8ne, pantomime qui pr\u00e9c\u00e8de,\u00a0The mousetrap, th\u00e9\u00e2tre en ab\u00eeme o\u00f9 Hamlet voulant d\u00e9voiler la noirceur meurtri\u00e8re de son oncle, per\u00e7oit son propre d\u00e9sir de meurtre.<\/p>\n

De Shakespeare \u00e0 Nabokov, et d\u2019Ella Sharpe \u00e0 M\u00e9lanie Klein, des fantasmes de r\u00eave \u2013 le r\u00eave freudien du p\u00e8re mort \u2013 \u00e0 la perversion et la sublimation, c\u2019est une premi\u00e8re approche du fantasme que Lacan cherche et expose dans ce S\u00e9minaire, approche qui ne sera reprise que lors du S\u00e9minaire XIV, \u00ab\u00a0La logique du fantasme\u00a0\u00bb. Le P\u00e8re, m\u00eame mort, ne garantit rien\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Le grand secret de la psychanalyse… c\u2019est \u2013 il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019Autre de l\u2019Autre.\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0(7)<\/p>\n

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1.\u00a0Texte \u00e9tabli par Jacques-Alain Miller
\n2.\u00a0Spinoza B., \u00c9thique<\/em>, troisi\u00e8me partie, trad. R. Caillois, Pl\u00e9iade,\u00a0Gallimard, Paris 1954, p. 525, cit\u00e9 par Lacan p. 16 et 558 du S\u00e9minaire VI
\n3.\u00a0Cazotte J., \u00ab Le diable amoureux \u00bb, \u00ab L’\u00e9cole des lettres \u00bb, Seuil, 1992,\u00a0Cf. aussi \u00ab Ch\u00e8 vuoi ? \u00bb, Alain Grosrichard, \u00ab l\u2019\u00c2ne \u00bb n\u00b03, 1981, p. 16 – 17
\n4.\u00a0Lacan J., op. cit<\/em>., chap. XX, p.434
\n5.\u00a0Shakespeare W., Hamlet<\/em>, Acte IV, sc\u00e8ne 2
\n6.\u00a0Miller J.-A., lors de la journ\u00e9e des Sections Cliniques du 26 mai 2013, in\u00e9dit
\n7.\u00a0Lacan J.,\u00a0op. cit.,<\/em> chap XIV, p.353<\/h6>\n
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Liens vers les autres pages du th\u00e8me :<\/span><\/p>\n

S\u00e9minaires de textes<\/a><\/p>\n

S\u00e9minaire du Cercle<\/a><\/p>\n

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