{"id":209,"date":"2015-08-21T23:33:33","date_gmt":"2015-08-21T22:33:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/?page_id=209"},"modified":"2022-06-22T14:50:05","modified_gmt":"2022-06-22T13:50:05","slug":"les-seminaires-de-textes","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/themes\/2013-2014\/les-seminaires-de-textes\/","title":{"rendered":"S\u00e9minaires de textes"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #f5519d;\"><strong>Commentaire suivi de textes<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">La notion lacanienne de d\u00e9sir a plusieurs noms dans l\u2019allemand de S. Freud\u00a0:\u00a0Wunsch, Begehren, Sehnsucht. Reconstituable d\u00e8s ses premiers travaux du p\u00e8re de la psychanalyse, elle est d\u2019embl\u00e9e l\u2019objet de tous ses soins. Avant m\u00eame l\u2019\u00e9tablissement de la triade des formations de l\u2019inconscient (sympt\u00f4me, r\u00eave, mot d\u2019esprit), elle intervient d\u00e9j\u00e0 dans ses premi\u00e8res conceptions du trauma, pour les transformer de fond en comble en montrant les limites de la th\u00e9orie de la s\u00e9duction, envahit son \u00ab\u00a0Esquisse d\u2019une psychologie scientifique\u00a0\u00bb, lui permet de dynamiter les th\u00e9ories de la d\u00e9g\u00e9n\u00e9rescence.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Mais d\u00e8s lors, le d\u00e9sir pr\u00e9sente un certain nombre de paradoxes\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 il se pr\u00e9sente comme a-temporel\u00a0\u2014 toujours \u00ab\u00a0infantile\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u2014 alors m\u00eame que, nomm\u00e9 Wunsch, c\u2019est \u00e0 dire souhait dans \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019Interpr\u00e9tation des r\u00eaves\u00a0\u00bb, il est, selon les termes de Lacan, \u00ab\u00a0optatif\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0: \u00e0 la fois pr\u00e9sent et irr\u00e9el.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 dans la composition du r\u00eave, le d\u00e9sir infantile joue le r\u00f4le du capitaliste, d\u00e9pendant des \u00ab\u00a0pens\u00e9es de la veille\u00a0\u00bb qui jouent le r\u00f4le de l\u2019entrepreneur, r\u00e9alisant un paradoxe proche de celui d\u00e9crit par l\u2019\u00e9conomiste Schumpeter.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 appuy\u00e9, en tant que\u00a0Begehren, sur les pulsions il n\u2019a de cesse de protester contre elles (contre leurs\u00a0Triebforderungen) en se r\u00e9glant sur le dispositif du fantasme \u2013 y compris dans le fantasme \u00ab\u00a0Un enfant est battu\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 il rel\u00e8ve du principe de plaisir, et comme tel doit constamment ruser avec le principe de r\u00e9alit\u00e9&#8230; jusqu\u2019au moment o\u00f9 la pulsion de mort vient pointer le bout de son nez, ruinant le recours de Freud \u00e0 l\u2019utilitarisme.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 il est d\u00e9sir de d\u00e9sir, sp\u00e9cialement dans l\u2019identification hyst\u00e9rique, mais il est \u00e9galement d\u00e9sir de s\u00e9paration.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u2013 il est \u00e9galement\u00a0Vatersehnsucht, nostalgie pour le p\u00e8re, comme Freud y insiste dans \u00ab\u00a0L\u2019Avenir d\u2019une illusion\u00a0\u00bb, une qualit\u00e9 qui dans les articles de la \u00ab\u00a0Psychologie de la vie amoureuse\u00a0\u00bb, confinait au trait de perversion, marquant l\u2019objet d\u2019une d\u00e9gradation.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Avec Lacan, le d\u00e9sir prend un tour encore plus radical, pour s\u2019identifier constamment avec la question de la nature du sujet, rejetant constamment la tentation d\u2019identifier celui-ci avec le moi.\u00a0Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019\u00e0 partir de ses S\u00e9minaires que Lacan th\u00e9matisera le d\u00e9sir, qui est certainement la notion sur laquelle il aura le plus \u00e9labor\u00e9 (plus de 140 r\u00e9f\u00e9rences).<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Les commentaires de textes se recentreront sur quelques-unes de ces nombreuses articulations\u00a0: le lien entre d\u00e9sir et d\u00e9fense (premiers s\u00e9minaires), la minutieuse progression de l\u2019\u00e9laboration du graphe du d\u00e9sir, les articulations entre d\u00e9sir et demande, l\u2019opposition entre m\u00e9taphore et m\u00e9tonymie, les \u00e9laborations du d\u00e9sir masculin et f\u00e9minin, le lien entre d\u00e9sir et \u00e9nonciation, les transitions du\u00a0Nom-du-P\u00e8re\u00a0au d\u00e9sir paternel.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #f5519d;\">Liens vers les autres pages du th\u00e8me :<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/themes\/2013-2014\/202-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">S\u00e9minaires\u00a0th\u00e9oriques<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/themes\/2013-2014\/le-seminaire-detude-et-de-recherche-cercle\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">S\u00e9minaire du Cercle<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6 style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong><em>Derni\u00e8re modification : 26\/09\/2015<\/em><\/strong><\/h6>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Commentaire suivi de textes &nbsp; La notion lacanienne de d\u00e9sir a plusieurs noms dans l\u2019allemand de S. 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Avant m\u00eame l\u2019\u00e9tablissement de la triade des formations de l\u2019inconscient (sympt\u00f4me, r\u00eave,\u2026<\/p>\n<p> <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/themes\/2013-2014\/les-seminaires-de-textes\/\"><span>Continue reading<\/span><i class=\"crycon-right-dir\"><\/i><\/a> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"parent":87,"menu_order":3,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-209","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>S\u00e9minaires de textes - La Section clinique de Rennes<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sectionclinique-rennes.fr\/nuevo\/themes\/2013-2014\/les-seminaires-de-textes\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"S\u00e9minaires de textes - La Section clinique de Rennes\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Commentaire suivi de textes &nbsp; La notion lacanienne de d\u00e9sir a plusieurs noms dans l\u2019allemand de S. 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